The Truth About the Area Code 809 Hoax and Scams



2017 UPDATE: After spending many, many hours debunking this hoax (prepetrated in large part by Snopes, who added legitimacy to the hoax, by saying it was partially true), it seems the the people perpetuating the hoax have mostly stopped, crawling away with their tails between their legs (in other words, silently removing their webpages, not even saying "thanks" to me). Of 43 links, 36 are gone -- I did pretty good! 3 are from Google Books and one from a newspaper (and therefore aren't going away). Other than that, only the State of Maine, the "travel expert", and the University of Texas Police Department still list it. It looks like this is for the most part now being treated as the hoax that it is, except for the occasional person that gets duped. Boos to Snopes, though, for copying a lot of my work without attribution. . Brief Summary: There is no evidence* that anyone falling for the '809 scam' ever complained about their phone bill, or paid more than standard international rates*.

Full Summary: In early October 1996, someone sent out spam* that tricked people into calling an 809 (Dominican Republic) phone number, and the callers were likely billed about $.50/minute *. About a week later, an organization called ScamBusters got a hold of this information, and reported* (incorrectly) that it could cost up to $25/minute and $100+ total. People passed this information on through chain letters, where $25 and $100 got turned into $2,425 and $24,100 (due to encoding and human error*). Everyone from the BBB to Attorney Generals got duped*, thinking something barely worthy of the term 'scam'* was a huge deal. There is no evidence* of anyone ever having complained about their phone bill from this! The hoax, on the other hand, causes huge problems*.



Statement about 809 NumbersStatusWho fell for it?Details (the original 'source' for every part of the hoax is the 1996 ScamBusters #8 article, and misinterpretations of it).
They can cost you 'as much as $25 per minute'HOAXNebraska Attorney GeneralHoax. The ScamBusters article incorrectly* stated 'you will apparently be charged $25 per-minute'. This figure was made up, presumably by one of the people that reported it to ScamBusters (and not the authors of ScamBusters). There is no evidence* of anyone having paid anywhere close to $25/minute for a call to the 809 area code.
They can cost '$25.00/minute and up'HOAXEl Dorado County, CA Sherriff's OfficeHoax. The ScamBusters article incorrectly* stated 'you will apparently be charged $25 per-minute', which was then embellished by some random person to make it appear worse. The $25/minute figure was made up, presumably by one of the people that reported it to ScamBusters (and not the authors of ScamBusters). There is no evidence* of anyone having paid anywhere close to $25/minute for a call to the 809 area code.
They can result in bills 'oftentimes more than $100HOAXNorth Dakota Attorney GeneralHoax. The ScamBusters article incorrectly* stated that it 'can easily cost you $100 or more'. This figure was made up, perhaps based on the thought of a 4-minute call at the made-up $25/minute rate. There is no evidence* that anyone has paid $100 or more for such a call.
They can result in 'telephone bills as high as $100 to $200'HOAXBBBHoax. The ScamBusters article incorrectly* stated that it 'can easily cost you $100 or more'. Someone embellished that bogus number to a range $100-$200. There is no evidence* that anyone has paid $100-$200 for such a call.
You 'will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute'HOAXCalifornia District AttorneyHoax. The 'apparently be charged $25 per-minute $25' in the chain letter sometimes got displayed as 'apparently be charged =2425 per-minute', which people then interpreted (and 'corrected') to '$2,425'. Not only is there no evidence of this, it is completely inconceivable that such a rate could exist.
They can result being 'charged more than $24,100'HOAXWyoming Attorney GeneralHoax. The 'can easily cost you $100 or more' in the ScamBusters article sometimes got displayed as '=24100' (due to coding issues), which people then interpreted (and 'corrected') to '$24,100'. Not only is there no evidence of this, it is completely inconceivable that such a rate could exist.
They can be 'a pay-per-call service with a hefty up-front fee'HOAXSnopesHoax. The ScamBusters article incorrectly* claimed 'The 809 area code can be used as a pay-per-call number,' but pay-per-call is a flat rate per call, which cannot occur* with international long distance calls.
This scam is 'spreading extremely quickly'HOAXChicago Police DepartmentHoax. The ScamBusters article stated that '[the scam is] spreading *extremely* quickly'. While the chain letter spread quickly, there are only confirmed reports of a dozen or so people* that may have fallen for the scam (there may well be plenty more that didn't bother reported it due to the small amount they were charged).


Unraveling the Hoax and Proving it

Despite hundreds of newspaper articles, warnings by police, sheriffs, district attorneys, attorneys general, colleges and universities, there is one lynchpin that keeps this whole thing alive: that it might have cost $25/minute to call these numbers (which then snowballs into the higher figures). The prospect of getting charged $25/minute is scary (and worthy of informing others of); getting charged $.25/minute* is not. If that $25/minute can be disproven, the whole thing can be shown to be a hoax, since all the warnings mention amounts of money that are based on the $25/minute rate.

The truth is that there is just one source for that $25/minute amount: The original ScamBusters article, which said "apparently be charged $25 per-minute." Their alert went out on 07 Oct 1996, 5 days after the scam started, so nobody had gotten a phone bill yet. Their alert was based on reports from 2 people, and quoted no sources for any of their information. Five days later, they issued a new alert, mentioning "reportedly up to $25 per minute." So their story changed from a flat rate per call to a variable rate.

On 21 Nov 1996 (6 weeks after the scam started), Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune said that the $25 figure was a 'wild error', and that you are billed standard international rates. The truth is that it cost people about $.50/minute to make the call back in 1996. On 12 Jan 1997, an intelligent Usenet poster claims that he for 6 months requested that anyone with proof of 809 calls cost more than the normal international rate to let him know; nobody responded. We also sent an E-mail to the one of the authors of the original ScamBusters article, asking if he had any evidence that anyone ever paid more than the standard international rate. No response. A reputable website has requested evidence of surchages for 8 years, with no takers.

So it seems very clear that the $25/minute that all the hoaxes are based on was completely made-up, most likely to try to get people to hype the ScamBusters article. A good job they did!


Who Perpetrates the Hoax?

OrganizationStatementDetails
Chicago Police Department'can easily cost you $24,100 or more' and 'spreading extremely quickly'No, it can't easily cost $24,100 or more, and it's that chain letter you received that is spreading quickly, not the scam.
Illinois Bar'can easily cost you $24,100 or more'No. Cut-and-paste of a chain letter.
BBB'Consumers can receive telephone bills as high as $100 to $200'There are no confirmed reports of people getting bills that high.
North Dakota Attorney General'is reportedly billed at $25 per minute' and 'oftentimes more than $100'.Wrong. They trusted the original ScamBusters article from 1996.
Nebraska Attorney General (2006)'can cost you as much as $25 per minute'Wrong. They trusted the original ScamBusters article from 1996.
California District Attorney (2008)'will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute'They cut-and-paste a chain letter.
Wyoming Attorney General'In many cases, the victim finds he has been charged more than $24,100 on his telephone bill'Apparently, the Wyoming Attorney General is privy to top-secret information, as there is no public record of anyone having a bill more than $100.
U.S. Department of Justice'reportedly up to $25 per minute'They are reportedly wrong.
FDIC'sometimes $25 per minute'Sometimes the FDIC is wrong.
California Department of Corporations'could be charged $2,425 per minute'They cut and paste a chain letter.
State of Maine'may cost consumers as much as $25 per minute'Wrong.
U.S. Embassy, Tokyo Japanyou'll often be charged more than $24100.00They cut and paste a chain letter.
Nebraska Office of the CIO'can easily cost you $24,000 or more'They cut and paste a chain letter.
Cowlitz County, WA Sheriff's Office'We have not been able to verify if charges are still as high as $25 per minute'Nor did they verify if the charges ever were as high as $25 per minute.
Will County, IL Sheriff's Office'apparently be charged $25 per-minute!', 'can cost you $100 or more'Not true.
Volusia County, FL Sheriff's Officeusually at the outrageously exorbitant rate of $25 or more, per-minuteUsually? That imples that they know that it is true, and that there are multiple cases. Not true.
Tuscola County, MI Sheriff'hundreds of dollars'No.
Boston University Police (May, 2009)reportedly up to $25 per minute'Reportedly'.
Texas State Technical College'may be charged as much as $25 per minute'Wrong..
University of Texas (2008)'you may be charged as much as $25 per minute'No.
a self-proclaimed travel expert'reportedly up to $25 per minute'No.
Washington, DC Police Department'charges that could top $25.00 per minute'Apparently, 'reportedly up to $25/minute' wasn't good enough, so they changed it to 'could top $25.00 per minute'.
Mississippi Attorney General'Many times these calls are billed at pay-per call rates'Although they don't make the most outrageous claims, they claim that these are charged at pay-per-call rates, which is false.
Oklahoma Corporation Commission'Information we have received indicates callers from the U.S. are being charged $25 per minute'Could any chain letter be considered 'information they received'?
Class Action Blog'you may be charged as much as $100 per-minute'No, not $100 per minute.
Missouri Attorney General (2008)'the place you're calling may bill you as well', links to a page with 'some have people have lost [more than $100]'Much better than most reports, but still implies that there is more than a $10 or so fee. And the Attorney General's office only was aware of one person who fell for this, who couldn't even remember if there was an extra charge on his phone bill.
MIT'Charges run $25 or more per minute'No, not $25 or more per minute (even the original inflated report was $25, not over $25).
Yola County, CA District Attorney'Some consumers report being charged in excess of $20,000 on their telephone bill.'A re-write of the chain letter.
El Dorado County, CA Sherriff's OfficeCharges have been reported in the range of $25.00/minute and up!'No.
Wisconsin Bureau of Consumer Protection'incredible charge, often times more that [sic] $100'No such reports.
Walworth, WI Sheriff's Office'you'll often be charged more than $24,100.00'They claim that the information came from 'National Fraud Information Center, and AT&T and Verizon Telephone Companies'. Perhaps that should read 'National Fraud Information Center, and AT&T and Verizon Telephone Companies, and a chain letter.'
Arkansas Attorney General [2007]'[you will be] running up hundreds of dollars in phone charges'Nothing supports their claim
New Mexico Attorney General [2003]'Some consumers have been charged up to $2400 per call'Nothing supports their claim
Michigan Attorney General'costing as much as $25.00 per minute'Not true.
Santa Paula Times'up to $2,400 a minute to be exact'At least they didn't cut-and-paste the article!
The State Journal (West Virginia)'Some bills as high as $24,000'Yeah, the chain letter seemed reputable.
New York Consumer Protection Board'exorbitant fee', 'Top 10 Scam of 2008'Oh, come on! A top 10 scam, yet there's no evidence of anyone falling for it in 2008.
Saint Joseph's University'Verizon has made us aware...', 'could be charged in excess of $2400 for only a few minutes'Um, 'We got a chain letter, that mentioned Verizon, so let's say that Verizon told us.'
Texas State Technical College'as much as $25 per minute'Wrong.
Jacksonville State Police'more than $100 for a few minutes of your time'No.
Steal This Computer Book 4.0 p171'As much as $25 per minute'It's a book, so it's O.K. to rehash a chain letter.
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Frauds, Scams, and cons (p.70)'charged $25 per minute'Please rename the title to 'The Complete Idiot's Guide to Frauds, Scams, cons, and hoaxes'.
Caribbean Islands p.282'[you are] charged US$25 [per minute]'No.

If you really want to report on the scam

Let's say that you want to report about the scam behind the hoax. You feel that your citizens/constituents/students/whatever need to know. That's OK. While we feel that it isn't worthy of reporting, you may. However, please at least consider these guidelines if you do report it:

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Specifics...

In 1996 it only cost about $.50/minute to call the 809 area code

Evidence from Usenet postings shows that in this time a good deal for international rate calling to the 809 area code was $.50/minute.

For example: $.46/minute (soc.culture.dominican-rep 23 May 1996), $.46/minute (biz.marketplace.non-computer 14 Oct 1996), $.47/minute (ca.forsale 27 Aug 1997), $.52/minute (biz.marketplace.services.non-computer 07 Nov 1996), $.52/minute (soc.culture.hongkong, 26 Nov 1996).

There has been no evidence that anyone paid anywhere close to $25/minute. Even if they did, the long distance phone company (who the person being scammed chose) would have pocketed the $24+/minute over the normal rates!



In 2009 it costs about $.25/minute to call the 809 area code

Today, there are typically 2 different international rates: one for normal calls, the other for mobile calls or premium services. Here is what you can expect to pay as of 23 Oct 2009 (all are for 'premium services' calls):

AT&T: $.24/minute (U-verse International Calling).
Charter: $.25/minute
Qwest: $.25 (using Broadband Phone Service)
Verizon: $.18 to $.47/minute


These scams are rare today

First, there's the fact that there are very, very few reports of anyone having ever fallen for this scam (and none include a dollar amount).

Then, there's Ask Andy. He says that he helped investigate this in 1998, and he is not aware of any such scam since then (as of the report, dated 13 Mar 2009).

The only reports we could find were: [1] Per that Ask Andy article, there were about a dozen people targeted in North Mississipi in or before 1998, and [2] A college student that reported it to the campus police (after he called, before he got the bill; he only reported it because he saw an article suggesting he might be paying a high rate), [3] The Missouri Attorney General says that a senior citizen got the message and called, but doesn't remember if he got an extra charge on his phone bill.



Originals

Note that the ScamBusters #8 on the ScamBusters site is altered from the original, and others may be as well.



If people got scammed, they never complained

We have poured over lots of information about the 809 scam/hoax, and we have seen no evidence that anyone who called the 809 number ever paid $25/minute, or paid over $100/call, or complained about the cost they paid, or paid any surcharges, or anything other than the standard rate. If you find any such evidence, please let us know, and we will update this page! Also look at These scams are rare today.

What this really means is that anyone using terms like 'exorbinant rates', 'high phone bill', 'outrageous', 'surcharge', 'pay-per-call', etc. are perpetrating scarelore.

Note that there are people who have called 809 numbers and complained about the rates -- but those have nothing to do with this scam (e.g. 'Mystery Shopper' ads where people usually knew they were paying an international rate, and getting information they were willing to pay for).



Encoding and Human Errors Changed $25 to $2,425 and $100 to $24,100

When the original ScamBusters article was sent via E-mail, it was sometimes encoded using a standard E-mail encoding protocol called 'quoted-printable.' That encoding scheme would take the '$' and convert it to '=24' (24 is hexadecimal for 36, 36 is the ASCII code for '$').

Mail clients not understand quoted-printable encoding would display 'charged $25 per-minute' as 'charged =2425 per-minute' and the 'often be charged more than $100.00' to 'often be charged more than #24100.00'. People then used human error to 'fix' those to 'charged $2,425 per-minute' and 'often be charged more than $24,100.00'.

It is barely worthy of the term 'scam'

As it stands, the truth behind the '809 scam' is barely worthy of the term 'scam'. Yes, someone conned people into calling an 809 number. But the people doing so all knew that it was going to cost them money. They just didn't know whether it would be about $.15/minute for a standard long-distance call or $.50/minute* for an international call.

There are almost no reports of people having fallen for this*, because people didn't even bother reporting the $5 or so they lost, because they knew they were paying it when they made the call.

Finally, given the huge cost of the 809 hoax, any mentions of the small truth of the scam help perpetuate the hoax.



Nobody got a $100 phone bill

The cost to call the 809 area code at the time of the scam was about $.50/minute. To rack up a $100 phone bill, that would take about 200 minutes.

Would anyone spend over 3 hours on the phone to someone as a result of this scam?

Of course, there is also no evidence suggesting that anyone paid $25/minute or $100/call.



The hoax is very costly

The hoax:

People never paid more than the standard international rate (no surcharges, pay-per-call)

The truth is that no evidence shows that anyone ever paid more than the standard international rate for the 809 area code, or ever paid any surcharges, or ever got billed from a foreign company, or paid 'pay-per-call' rates (flat rate for the whole call).

On 21 Nov 1996 (6 weeks after the scam started), Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune said that the $25 figure was a 'wild error', and that you are billed standard international rates.

On 12 Jan 1997, an intelligent Usenet poster claimed that he had for 6 months been requesting proof of 809 calls costing more than the normal international rate; nobody responded.

On 22 Oct 2009, we sent an E-mail to the one of the authors of the original ScamBusters article, asking if he had any evidence that anyone ever paid more than the standard international rate. No response.

Since 30 Dec 2000, the LincMad website has had a challenge that proves that there are no surcharges for calling 809 numbers above the normal cost to call any 809 number.



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